Native grasses


Burt: I am 2 1/2 years into my 2 acre restoration and it is going reasonably well. I have about 3/4 ac which needs attention. I live in Ramona in a Southern Oak Woodland environment. Valarie @ Las Pilitas has really helped as has Gregg Rubin. Still have two questions:


*Question #1:* I have a west facing slope I want to plant in native grasses with only a few native shrubs and native flowers mixed in. The area is heavily infested with redstem filaree and turkey mullin. While I know it is too late to attack the weeds now, I am concerned that if I apply a pre-emergent in late fall it will prevent the native grasses from germinating as well as the weed seed. We normally don't get any real rain until late December here. /So how do I proceed so I can have grasses next spring?/

// */Question #2:/ *Under my Englemann oaks I have Miner's lettuce which I want to save but, but I also have some non-native grasses and catchweed bedstraw, which I understand may or may not be native but I would like to eliminate both. /Can I use a grass herbicide like Ornamec or will it kill the lettuce too? And when would I apply it?/

1. I have no idea, we're not a fan of grasses because they fail in almost all sites. How to control weeds while keeping the grasses alive seems to be impossible, and we've been trying for 25 years. Controlled grazing seems to help and mowing early also seems to help.


2. about a month ago, young actively growing. At normal rates miners lettuce seems to be fine.



Hi! You guys are wonderful, your site is amazing---!
I came upon it because y our contact info's included (and now spelled correctly: it was initially Pilatas...) in "Sources and Resources," backmatter of a ms i'm now editing, a book on natives by Allan Armitage (it'll be a Spring 2006 book for us).
Here's my REAL question: Allan quotes you guys in the A-to-Z heart of the book. Here's the leadup and quote re tufted hairgrass (which is very funny---i really want to keep it, but I WANT TO ATTRIBUTE IT TO A PERSON, not a nursery):
and this quote from someone at Las Pilitas Nursery (see “Sources and Resources�) in southern California: “[ Deschampsia caespitosa ] grows very poorly at lower elevations and looks like hell here at all times. If you live in a mountain meadow at 6000 ft. or in an awful climate like Vermont, this is a decent plant---if you live in LA I can sell you a plant that looks dead twelve months of the year.� Needless to say, they are not particularly useful in the South...
So, who said/wrote this, if they wouldn't mind us saying so? It's so direct, with the "I can sell you" bit. Readers to will want to know who the "someone" is...
(and excuse me for adding an M dash before the "if you live in LA," but i didn't want anyone to quickly read "this is a decent plant, if you live in LA"...)

most of the website
Bert Wilson
the butterflies, birds and other secondary pages
Penny Nyunt
rather have the website quoted though

We live in Cambria at the edge of the forest (half a block)and 4 blocks up
the hill from the beach. We are protected from the ocean wind.
We would like to plant some of the grasses we see in the forest in our yard.
We have several pine trees on our property.
Do you perhaps know which native grasses grow here in the forest in Cambria?
And do you carry these plants in your nursery?

The best is Danthonia californica, and we carry it. Plant with wild
strawberry and Yerba Buena.

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